Clan Forum

Search Our Site

Topic-icon Ideas for next season

  • pinky
  • pinky's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
More
6 years 2 months ago #26609

With the season coming to a close, I thought I'd get a thread going on ideas for the Clan for next season, especially things that we could work on in the off-season.
My own suggestions:

  • Subscription. I think we should start charging a small annual subscription. It could be done on a revenue-neutral basis, so you get a membership gift worth as much as the subscription. So pay a fiver and get a hat or whatever. One of the problems we have at the moment is that we don't really know how many members we have or who they all are, so we can't grow our membership if we don't know where we're starting from. Having a list of registered members would be a good start. In the short term at least, we could leave everything open to non-members so no-one would be losing out by not being a member.
  • Away travel. This improved a lot this season, mainly due to Fourdogs. It will be a greater challenge next season without the Heineken Cup. I would re-iterate the need for an away travel co-ordinator to try to work with the branch and with Keller's, etc. re tickets, charter flights and so on, drum up numbers for away trips, organise ground transport at the other end, contact incoming supporters, etc. If Fourdogs won't take the post, I'd volunteer to be his puppet.
  • Web site upgrade. This is scheduled to happen in the off-season anyway. The main thing is to upgrade to the latest version of joomla (the software it runs on). But any suggestions for new features or volunteers to assist can be thrown out here.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"We haven’t liked the wind and rain for about four years now" - John Muldoon 1/1/2015
The following user(s) said Thank You: Diom

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
6 years 2 months ago #26610

I wouldnt pay to use this forum
It also alienates away fans who come here to ask advice


@ConnachtCows - Always looking for new followers :)
Last edit: 6 years 2 months ago by ConnachtCows.
The following user(s) said Thank You: theCulk, chrisduignan

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
6 years 2 months ago #26611

I think this is an important topic. In fairness I don't think pinky is asking to pay for membership to the site but for Clan Membership which I think wouldn't be a bad idea. The first season with the Clan there was a clear idea of you being in the Clan or not in the Clan, at present I don't know or I don't think 99% of fans know if Clan Membership is included in the season ticket and what benefits it has or if there is such thing as Clan Membership anymore?

Everyone involved is doing it voluntarily and deserve recognition and our thanks and they have run some good events but I think the Clan is hanging on by a thread at the moment and needs to establish a greater presence. How to do that I don't fully know and it depends on the time everyone has to commit but its important that the clan has a meaning and a strong presence in the future of Connacht Rugby.

Once the new CEO is appointed, it might be a time to have some proposals ready to land on his / her desk.

Membership of a small amount but linked into sponsoring one of the players / academy players for the year might be an idea and give those who contribute €20 a hat or something. Enough was raised this season to sponsor Matt Healy and that was with access to only a limited % of supporters. It'd be great to see the Clan being able to get wider access to supporters.

Similarly with the grassroots to greenshirts a few thousand was raised in the first couple of days by the Connacht Branch but they never pushed it after that and it died a death which was a huge pity as the first couple of days highlighted the potential of this. Initiatives like this could be where the Clan could work with the Branch more successfully.

Really though, I amn't really in a position to comment as I cannot commit time to it and while ideas are great, its getting people to implement them is difficult as time is tight for everyone.

The following user(s) said Thank You: Diom, pinky

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
6 years 2 months ago #26612

pinky wrote: With the season coming to a close, I thought I'd get a thread going on ideas for the Clan for next season, especially things that we could work on in the off-season.
My own suggestions:

Subscription.-- i agree a bit with connachtcows, making people pay for the site wont work. i would personally pay to use it cause it great place for info, ie travel but that info would be gone if nobody wanted to be either. look at the votes for player of the year. only 35 votes! we all go to the games, we all have a player who we think is best, why arent people voting!!??
had quick look at the users who signed up, out of the first 210 users who signed up, only 75 have been online in 2014!

Away travel. fourdogs and pinky do great here, and anyone else who has been before gives good info. i honestly dont think connacht will have a chartered flight again for a very long time. as for away travel plans by the branch or farrell/kellier, think we'll be waiting awhile!
what we can hope for is the branch getting good tickets.

Web site upgrade. this will sound stupid but i like things to be tidy and easy to find!
on main form, ''on the pitch'' 'where connacht rugby board' & 'other rugby' are could we have a folder with all match threads since the forum started, then have a folder for threads for each player that has his own thread and then a folder for stats, like ummms old ref stats, my attendence, etc etc.


as i said, paying for this site wont work, a raffle or something would raise as much money and less hassle then making people pay. im actually surprised matt healy didnt donate a signed jersey or match tickets. seen muldoon a few times handing stuff over to the front door to give away on facebook.
maybe start of next season, we could hand over €20 via pay pal so for example if you wanted to book a seat to limerick, you'd give away €10 of the €20 for deposit, and for example the other €10 could be used as deposit if the clan were selling (ordering) polo shirts/tshirts etc.

last bit i promise..... maybe next year we could have a clan xmas dinner!?!? get people to meet up, someplace that we could have our space and spend the night chatting. if fixtures were like last season, id but it on 21 of december, after we played dragons. something simple, dinner drinks etc all together. couldnt work for heineken cup weekends cause good crowd would be away and for the return leg, usually people have there own friends to meet after big games. again, the €20 paid pre season, half of that could go as a deposit.

my ideas for what they are worth

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • pinky
  • pinky's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
More
6 years 2 months ago #26613

Again, just because at least two people didn't understand :)

I never suggested charging to access the website.
I never suggested charging a subscription to raise money, just to establish a membership base.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"We haven’t liked the wind and rain for about four years now" - John Muldoon 1/1/2015
Last edit: 6 years 2 months ago by pinky.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
6 years 2 months ago #26616

The commitee should liaise with the season ticket sales dept and each season ticket sale should represent a clan membership. The back of the season ticket should have the clan logo and the season ticket number should also be your clan membership number. Non season ticket holders should be able to purchase clan membership through same medium as season ticket is purchased for token fee to cover cost. Perhaps 20 euro. This could be used as a loyalty card and have benefits such as free/discounted entry to certain games if credit is built up. In addition all season ticket holders email addresses should be supplied to the clan commitee as they are automatically clan members. An opt out option can be made available to those who dont wish to recieve emails.

I think the opportunity to charge membership for memberships sake has passed. It had to be introduced at the start I think.
A form of fundraising thst I would suggest is the 50/50 draw. Its easy to set up and run and you are guarenteed a winner every time which generates interest. Our Gaa club have been running one for last 7 months and have never raised less than 1000 euro for the club every week in a rural community. Thats a jackpot of 1000 minimum won every week also. It could be run for the 14 home matches initially with tickets sold during the week of match at work etc and at gate befor match and halftime. The draw could be done in clan bar after game. Its admin is minimum. It requires envelopes and volunteers. You count the number of envelopes, remove the 2 euros, divide the money raised by 2, place the empty envrlopes in a drum and draw a winner. Could have a connacht player draw the winner etc.
Thats my lot for now.

The following user(s) said Thank You: Diom

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
6 years 2 months ago #26620

I think you could be missing a beat, by having the draw in the Clan Bar after the game. People dont stay around, and some season ticket holders sit on the otherside. Why not talk to Connacht rugby, about getting a quick draw done at half time?
I honestly dont see the benefit of paying for Clan Membership. That's not a dig at anyone by the way, but I would throw a 3 or 5 euro into a bucket most weeks, to be entered into a draw where there are guaranteed winners


@ConnachtCows - Always looking for new followers :)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • pinky
  • pinky's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
More
6 years 2 months ago #26621

Are finances an issue? I really didn't think they were. At last AGM the committee were looking for suggestions on how to spend money, so I assumed our balance sheet was looking OK, but I could be wrong.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"We haven’t liked the wind and rain for about four years now" - John Muldoon 1/1/2015

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
6 years 2 months ago #26622

Had big long reply here, which the site ate.

General tenor was: great ideas, keep em coming. Membership is a good idea, but logistically a nightmare of the highest order, but defo considering it. Planning trips is great, but centrally booking them have been unsucessful (in the main).

Do keep the ideas coming.


Committee Member
Email: shanes@connachtclan.com

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • pinky
  • pinky's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
More
6 years 2 months ago #26623

I agree with Rossie's suggestion about including Clan membership with the season ticket and having the option to sign up separately also. That would be the ideal but I think there are issues with getting the branch to agree to that. I could be wrong but I think that was the outcome last time it was discussed.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"We haven’t liked the wind and rain for about four years now" - John Muldoon 1/1/2015

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
6 years 2 months ago #26624

Finances are not REALLY an issue, but that's more down to our only real overhead being serve maintenance. That said, most of the things that we've done this year have been revenue neutral at best (the bus, the table quiz, the bar work, the PA in the bar, the fleeces etc.) That said, the more cash we take in the more we can do with it.


Committee Member
Email: shanes@connachtclan.com

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
6 years 2 months ago #26625

pinky wrote: Are finances an issue? I really didn't think they were. At last AGM the committee were looking for suggestions on how to spend money, so I assumed our balance sheet was looking OK, but I could be wrong.


Sorry Pinky, I keep coming across like I'm unable to read your posts :oops:
Ignore me :cheer:


@ConnachtCows - Always looking for new followers :)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
6 years 2 months ago #26626

pinky wrote: With the season coming to a close, I thought I'd get a thread going on ideas for the Clan for next season, especially things that we could work on in the off-season.
My own suggestions:

<li>Away travel. This improved a lot this season, mainly due to Fourdogs. It will be a greater challenge next season without the Heineken Cup. I would re-iterate the need for an away travel co-ordinator to try to work with the branch and with Keller's, etc. re tickets, charter flights and so on, drum up numbers for away trips, organise ground transport at the other end, contact incoming supporters, etc. If Fourdogs won't take the post, I'd volunteer to be his puppet.</li>


Pinky

We could do a "Good cop, Bad cop" partnership. (you being the "Good Cop" of course) Think if there were 2 of us working with the Branch and/or Keller's officially on behalf of the Clan we might get somewhere.

Branch only did away tickets for HCup games and usually ended up being given Crap seat locations, we managed reasonable seats for the Sarries game when we did it ourselves.

We even managed to convince AS to let us have the Big flag, so there may be a bit more willingness to engage with us next year. No HCup will probably mean less people looking to travel.

The following user(s) said Thank You: Diom, mahick, pinky

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Diom
  • Diom's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • Rise Up, Something Up
More
6 years 2 months ago #26632

Hey lads,

Great ideas.

Regarding membership: Tracking paid membership and sending out membership cards/prizes takes time and effort. In the first season we used a crowd who provided a platform for signing up. These guys cost money and charged for all transactions as well. On top of that we needed to chase them up to get the money transferred to setup merchandise options etc... This took a good amount of time. Plus we had to mail out the membership letters and pins by hand.
Previously Connacht STHs were automatically members of the Connacht Clan, but I don't think that that really worked. However we could see if we can target them with some emails encouraging them to join us here.
Since giving up on paid membership we have had a working premise since that members of the forum are considered "real" members. There is a facility to email users of the site which we have been lax in utilising, and I think that we could use that more to drive users back to the site. For example a weekly/monthly newsletter with "most popular topics", "planned trips", "Clan events" etc... Preferably we can setup the site to automatically generate one and this is something we can look at during the upgrade.

Away Travel: I agree that having 4D and Pinky doing travel articles and looking into options has been a great addition. Pinky has also signed up as an extra admin here to help out as well, which is great. We would love to have an official travel co-ordinator, but unfortunately no one is willing to take that on at the minute. If anyone IS interested please let us know!
Paid/chartered away trips are hard to get right. We have had success with small buses to Thomond Park (including a great trip this year :) ), but no other trip has really worked out. Remember that the professional Keller and Farrell travel agents have both (at different times) tried to get that to work and failed. Those are two companies with paid employees doing this full time. I am not trying to be a naysayer here, I had the same ideas when I signed on back in 2011, but time and again the travel agents, Connacht and Connacht Clan have failed to get enough people to sign up for a chartered trip.
We will continue with the Munster trips, and hopefully 4Dogs and Pinky will continue their great volunteer work in getting options out there for non-chartered trips.

Finances: We have not had _much_ trouble there. We have generated enough money through sponsorship and events to keep the site running, and even have enough to improve the bar, cover costs of prizes and even make donations to charity (the table quiz money was all donated to Hand In Hand). My main worry is that the sponsorship money is being given to us on the basis that we can bring supporters to watch matches, which is not always the case.

As mentioned the key thing that we are short on is time and manpower. Over the season we have 5 people on the committee, with different people able to contribute at different times. Most of the time three or so would be available at one time. Having 3/4 more people would really help us out.

Anyways that is the history of why we are where we are, and what has influenced the decisions so far. The key point though is that NONE of the above is set in stone. We will definitely re-visit all of these points and re-assess how we can do things better.
If you want to be involved in helping make these decisions please come to the AGM and/or join the committee. It really is just a meeting or two a month (albeit with lots of emails and some informal gatherings pre/post matches).


A Connacht is not just for the Xmas Inter-Pros...
A Connacht is for Life

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Diom
  • Diom's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • Rise Up, Something Up
More
6 years 2 months ago #26633

pinky wrote: Away travel. This improved a lot this season, mainly due to Fourdogs. It will be a greater challenge next season without the Heineken Cup. I would re-iterate the need for an away travel co-ordinator to try to work with the branch and with Keller's, etc. re tickets, charter flights and so on, drum up numbers for away trips, organise ground transport at the other end, contact incoming supporters, etc. If Fourdogs won't take the post, I'd volunteer to be his puppet.

That would be great and you guys would have pretty much free rein on that. If you want both of you can be "official travel coordinators", no probs. Email me about it and we can see if we can't get you setup with contacts in Connacht Rugby directly.


A Connacht is not just for the Xmas Inter-Pros...
A Connacht is for Life
The following user(s) said Thank You: pinky

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Diom
  • Diom's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • Rise Up, Something Up
More
6 years 2 months ago #26634

pinky wrote: I agree with Rossie's suggestion about including Clan membership with the season ticket and having the option to sign up separately also. That would be the ideal but I think there are issues with getting the branch to agree to that. I could be wrong but I think that was the outcome last time it was discussed.

There are issues and this is certainly off the table for this season. We can attempt to address this again when the structure at Connacht are a little bit more stable though.


A Connacht is not just for the Xmas Inter-Pros...
A Connacht is for Life

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

logo