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10 years 1 month ago #25164

as stated by the panel, i think the reason zebo isnt in the squad is for the way he acts of the pitch. i can see why

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10 years 1 month ago #25165

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Rather than sticking blindly to preconceptions or talking blithely about a player’s ‘class’ when you can’t put your finger on what it is that he does [or doesn't do] that sets him apart, looking at a player’s production can give you a strong pointer as to why he gets the nod in selection, and why maybe it’s not the wrong decision after all.


Ah get bent Exile, McFadden doesn't play for Munster and that's all the reason you need that Zebo should be ahead of him. Capiche? :evil:


Its a Munster fans site. If you don't like their opinion stay away.

Zebo has scored 4 tries in 4 games since returning from injury.how's that for production?


In fairness the topic was brought over here so salmson is just expressing his opinion on a topic raised here. My opinion would be similar to yours in that Bowe and Zebo are probably the best wing options when fit but Trimble and Kearney took their chance well in the first two games.

I'd have thought Zebo would have been a better option yesterday but in terms of covering positions, really how many games has he played at full back? A couple with Ireland and maybe one or two at Pro 12. Also saying Jackson covers centre is a real push, he'd have been steamrolled at centre against England.

Also while 4 tries in 4 is good form, in all honesty only 1 of them is worth talking about. 1 was late on against a weakened Cardiff side who had long since thrown the towel in and 2 at home to Zebre who even our bunch of sloggers managed to get 4 tries against.

Also while the exuberance of youth is one thing, Zebo really rubs me up the wrong way. His arrogance is similar to what others castigate Hartley and Ashton for and its not something I want associated with Ireland or I'd imagine Munster.

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10 years 1 month ago #25169

Sorry exile but you have brought this on yourself. After posting that piece from the rugby guru I'm going to have to ask you to back up the claim that McFadden is the best defensive winger we have? McFadden and Trimble both started out at 13. Both made a decision to become wingers seeking further international opportunities than were available in centre st that time which is ironic considering the current situation. Zebo covers wing and FB. McFadden wing and centre. Jackson OH and centre, Trimble wing and centre. So you would lose nothing with zebo on bench or wing. Oh and Jackson covers the goalkicking.

IMO the two best wingers available to Ireland when everyone is fit are zebo and bowe.the stats go some way towards backing that up.


McFadden is the best cover we have on the bench with Trimble and D. Kearny starting imo. Trimble is not good enough in the centre at international level and doesn't even play much at Rabo level anymore as Ulter have better options coming through there academy. D. Kearny can play fullback if anything happened to R. Kearney. Zebo can play 3 postions, thats great McFadden can play 4 so if you were a coach why would you limit your options? I got no problem with Zebo but my point was McFadden is a way better player than people give him credit for. His tackle rate success rate during the A.I. was the highest for any winger and he know's Schmidt's system inside out. For a coach who is trying to bed in a new system fast that is a big thing. Remember that Gatland played 14/15 Ospreys in one of his first games for Wales.

As for Zebo I have no personal problem with him and I think his name will be on the gamesheet against Italy and I'll be happy to see it there. It's just while McFadden doesn't have the flash of Zebo it doesn't make him less of a player than him.


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10 years 1 month ago #25171

It is known that Schmidt does not like his players celebrating!

It Zebo continuing to do this not two fingers to the boss?


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10 years 1 month ago #25172

I chatted to an ex Munster player after the Wales game, and he claimed one of the Munster wingers is causing problems there, never mind the international thing. Supposedly there was a team meeting recently where he was lounging with his feet on a table, and refused point blank to take them down when told by a coach, at which point one of the other players got involved and it came to blows.

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10 years 1 month ago #25173

If it didn't happen, wouldn't that make it defamatory?

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10 years 1 month ago #25177

pinky wrote: If it didn't happen, wouldn't that make it defamatory?


Would it be defamatory to describe him as a "very self-aware" young man, who could perhaps do better to take a step back from the media and focus on his rugby... :whistle:

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10 years 1 month ago #25178

_nobody_ wrote: It is known that Schmidt does not like his players celebrating!

It Zebo continuing to do this not two fingers to the boss?


Good point, I find it kind of vulgar/crass too that he will put up his Z sign before celebrating with his teammates, making them hold their congratulations as per the Zebre game. I think its poor form. Zebo should remember that no matter how talented a player is if they are causing too much trouble they will be found surplus to requirements, he should have a talk with James O'Connor.

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10 years 1 month ago #25179

pinky wrote: If it didn't happen, wouldn't that make it defamatory?


It was told to me as fact, but I take your point.

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10 years 1 month ago #25180

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pinky wrote: If it didn't happen, wouldn't that make it defamatory?


It was told to me as fact, but I take your point.


Are you saying this incident never happened, or were you talking about The Incident That Never Happened never happening?

Can't keep up with this Zebo lad, he's like our very own Bieber. ;)

BTW, didn't he have a cracker of a game yesterday?

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10 years 1 month ago #25181

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pinky wrote: If it didn't happen, wouldn't that make it defamatory?


It was told to me as fact, but I take your point.


Are you saying this incident never happened, or were you talking about The Incident That Never Happened never happening?

Can't keep up with this Zebo lad, he's like our very own Bieber. ;)

BTW, didn't he have a cracker of a game yesterday?


I'm saying a guy who played for Munster told me it happened, but I'm guessing since he is probably in his mid 40's that he wasn't there. My rugby talents were at their peak in the late 80's, at the age of 9, so needless to say I wasn't there either. Anyway, it was a typo earlier when I referred to Zebo, I now remember that it was a nameless winger that he was describing. Apologies for any confusion.

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10 years 1 month ago #25183

salmson wrote: Can't keep up with this Zebo lad, he's like our very own Bieber. ;)

BTW, didn't he have a cracker of a game yesterday?


Who, Justin Bieber? Sign him up. Is he already capped for Canada?

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10 years 1 month ago #25184

pinky wrote:

salmson wrote: Can't keep up with this Zebo lad, he's like our very own Bieber. ;)

BTW, didn't he have a cracker of a game yesterday?


Who, Justin Bieber? Sign him up. Is he already capped for Canada?


Way I heard it, the US tried to poach him, then decided he wasn't living up to his early talent and tried to give him back. Hardly worth wasting a NIE spot on though.

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10 years 1 month ago #25185

salmson wrote:

pinky wrote:

salmson wrote: Can't keep up with this Zebo lad, he's like our very own Bieber. ;)

BTW, didn't he have a cracker of a game yesterday?


Who, Justin Bieber? Sign him up. Is he already capped for Canada?


Way I heard it, the US tried to poach him, then decided he wasn't living up to his early talent <strong>and tried to give him back</strong>. Hardly worth wasting a NIE spot on though.


I tried unsuccessfully to post a link to a story I saw on thescore.ie, but it seems the tinyurl works - nothing dodgy, trust me!

tinyurl.com/pjol568

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10 years 1 month ago #25267

Sexton out for between '10 days and six weeks' with a thumb injury.

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10 years 1 month ago #25273

Sol_ie wrote: Sexton out for between '10 days and six weeks' with a thumb injury.


That's coming from a statement by Racing. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. They obviously pay his wages and they want to protect their asset. The paranoid among us might also look to the fact Sexton is a key player for the Irish national side, who are preparing for a 6 nations decider against France - could Racing be trying to upset the those preparations?

PS: Before anyone says it, I know we have to beat Italy in the meantime.

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