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5 years 7 months ago #32820

oh f*** I thought the game was today not yesterday. Didnt't miss a "must see" apparently though... but 1 interesting question : when he came on, did McKeon play 7 or 8?

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5 years 7 months ago #32821

when he came on, did McKeon play 7 or 8?


Around the 50min mark for O'Brien was hunkering down at 7 in the scrum.

The standouts in the game for me were Ryan, Henderson, Diack and Conway. Henderson looks the business and was one of the reasons why the English line-out failed miserably last night. Ryan did a fantastic job nullifying Burges from the game and generally getting himself around the park. Diack made a major impact when he came on and McCarthy should be worried if he isn't injured. As for Conway it was his first game at this level and he showed that he is well up to the pace. I can imagine him in the international squads going forward after the RWC.


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5 years 7 months ago #32834

White, Marm8on and Henshaw all remain in the slimed down squad named today.


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5 years 7 months ago #32835

The Ireland squad in full:
FORWARDS (20)

Rory Best (Ulster), James Cronin (Munster), Seán Cronin (Leinster), Robbie Diack (Ulster), Cian Healy (Leinster), Jamie Heaslip (Leinster), Iain Henderson (Ulster), Mike McCarthy (Leinster), Jack McGrath (Leinster), Martin Moore (Leinster), Jordi Murphy (Leinster), Seán O’Brien (Leinster), Paul O’Connell (Munster), Tommy O’Donnell (Munster), Peter O’Mahony (Munster), Mike Ross (Leinster), Dominic Ryan (Leinster), Richardt Strauss (Leinster), Devin Toner (Leinster), Nathan White (Connacht)*
BACKS (18)

Isaac Boss (Leinster), Tommy Bowe (Ulster), Darren Cave (Ulster), Gordon D’Arcy (Leinster), Keith Earls (Munster), Luke Fitzgerald (Leinster), Robbie Henshaw (Connacht), Felix Jones (Munster), David Kearney (Leinster), Rob Kearney (Leinster), Ian Keatley (Munster), Ian Madigan (Leinster), Kieran Marmion (Connacht), Conor Murray (Munster), Jared Payne (Ulster), Eoin Reddan (Leinster), Jonathan Sexton (Racing Metro 92), Simon Zebo (Munster).

The ones dropped are:
Eoin McKeown, Michael Bent, Fergus McFadden, Craig Gilroy, Rob Herring, Jack Conan and Noel Reid.


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5 years 7 months ago #32912

Robbie Starts at 12.

Boss on the bench ahead of Marmion.

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5 years 7 months ago #32913

Westie85 wrote: Robbie Starts at 12.

Boss on the bench ahead of Marmion.


In fairness to Boss he was much better than Marmion for the Wolfhounds.

No White either so hopefully we'll only be missing Robbie (and the injured players obviously) against Scarlets.

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5 years 7 months ago #32914

salmson wrote:

Westie85 wrote: Robbie Starts at 12.

Boss on the bench ahead of Marmion.


In fairness to Boss he was much better than Marmion for the Wolfhounds.

No White either so hopefully we'll only be missing Robbie (and the injured players obviously) against Scarlets.


The very very good point is I can now ask you : which injured player would we really miss, except Aki and JHW?? We should have (fingers crossed nothing happens this afternoon) 20 out of the 23 best players against Scarlets....

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5 years 7 months ago #32916

Very disappointing that Kieran Marmion has slipped behind Boss in the S/H pecking order for Schmidt, but unfortunately he has paid for an underwhelming performance in the Wolfhounds game last Friday. Madigan has suffered for the same reason. This is disappointing as Boss definitely isn't the future for Irish rugby at 9. Very difficult now to see Kieran make the RWC squad.

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5 years 7 months ago #32917

Have to agree Mary. Since JS knows more about rugby than I do it has me wondering if we think that Marmion is not as good as we think.


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5 years 7 months ago #32918

I think Kieran is as good as we think Ger. It's just that he never shows it when he gets a chance at representative level. A half decent performance last Friday night would've seen him on the bench in Rome. Instead a hesitant performance with not one trademark break has scuppered his short-term Ireland chances unfortunately.

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5 years 7 months ago #32919

mary hinge wrote: Very disappointing that Kieran Marmion has slipped behind Boss in the S/H pecking order for Schmidt, but unfortunately he has paid for an underwhelming performance in the Wolfhounds game last Friday. Madigan has suffered for the same reason. This is disappointing as Boss definitely isn't the future for Irish rugby at 9. Very difficult now to see Kieran make the RWC squad.


He's taken the can for how sh*t Conan was at No.8 and Madigan inside him at No.10.... how Mad Dog has gotten the bench slot ahead of Keatley (who can cover 10, Centres and FB) after the Wolfhounds game is astonishing...

Nothing wrong with Kieran's game in the context of the overall performance, Boss benefited form getting on when all the changes were being made and England a bit more disjointed...

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5 years 7 months ago #32920

sea_point wrote: He's taken the can for how sh*t Conan was at No.8 and Madigan inside him at No.10.... how Mad Dog has gotten the bench slot ahead of Keatley (who can cover 10, Centres and FB) after the Wolfhounds game is astonishing...

Nothing wrong with Kieran's game in the context of the overall performance, Boss benefited form getting on when all the changes were being made and England a bit more disjointed...


Erm, Keatley not on Bench cause he starting.. Madigan played himself off the starting XV.. Few dodgy box kicks really made Marmions performance look worse than it was

In other news, how Jones on bench ahead of Earls or Fitz is a head scratcher.. Team not exactly short in the FB department

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5 years 7 months ago #32921

In Joe we Trust!

I am confused by some of the calls but will will hopld out opinion until after the game. These players probably suit the game plan ( what ever that might be ) better.

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5 years 7 months ago #32922

I'm not sure what game you were watching Friday Seapoint! Anyway nevermind. The up side is we'll have Kieran available vs Llanelli. The down side is that I'd love to see another Connacht man involved in the national squad 23.

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5 years 7 months ago #32934

Ireland training session confirmed but you need a ticket


www.connachtrugby.ie/sportsground-to-hos...en-training-session/


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5 years 7 months ago #32949

mary hinge wrote: I'm not sure what game you were watching Friday Seapoint! Anyway nevermind. The up side is we'll have Kieran available vs Llanelli. The down side is that I'd love to see another Connacht man involved in the national squad 23.


Apart from my Keatley faux pas, my point still strands about Conan and Madigan, they were both awful on Friday.

The game completely passed Conan by, we saw nothing of the player he showed in his P{ro12 excursions for Leinster..
And Madigan's game management was absolutely awful (again), it had nothing to do with Marmion whose general play was fine. But he would have been helped by more effective performances by the players inside and outside him.

I'm delighted he'll be available for the Scarlet's game, but disgusted at the same time with Schmidt that he has reverted to Boss with a RWC less than a year away..There is absolutely nothing to be learned from Boss getting game time at the weekend, and barring catastrophic injuries to Reddan and Murray he wont get a minutes play at the RWC, (not because I don't think Boss hasn't anything to offer, just that Joe won't use him)....

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