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5 years 8 months ago #30432

From a georgian fan POV

During the first half Georgia was very impressive in defence, legal or not. I think Scotland or Italy would not have done better. The yellow card at the end of the first half was deserved though.

The begin of the second half was very hard to Georgia, 2 tries conceded with 1 man down. Then the coach made 5 changes and Georgia scored a nice try by Nemsadze who was very good today IMO. After the try, the coach made the last two sub and the ref gave a sin bin to Basilaia. One minute later (61') Zebo scored a try. Then Irish coaches made 6 changes while fly half Malaguradze had a sick injury (I hope he is OK). Unfortunately all changes were made in the georgian side so the team have to play with 13 men and 14 men when Basilaia will be back from his yellow card. In the same time, players begin to be tired, especially amateur players from Georgian league or France federale1 (3d division). Ireland added 3 deserved try and finished with a 49-7 win. I also liked the georgian #16, powerfull, this guy plays in Federale1 too.

IMO Georgia deserves to play at least one test against a tier1 nation every year. This would allow them to make progress, thanks Ireland to have play Georgia today and congratulations for this win

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5 years 8 months ago #30433

Hey Croket,

I was really impressed with Georgia. And your try was excellent.

Totally agree regarding Georgia playing a tier one country at least once a year. And would love to see more regular matches involing the Nations Cup teams.

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5 years 8 months ago #30435

Was at the game today, must say in the first half Georgia were resolute in defence and competed well at scrum-time. However, once the ball went out the backline the mistakes reflected the level a lot of the backs are playing at. A lot of good work by their forwards was undone by overcooked up and under kicks which were meat and drink to Felix Jones. In the 2nd half it was always going to be difficult for Georgia after the yellow cards, injuries and substitutes.

I know I'll probably get accused of bearing a grudge but I honestly don't think they can continue to develop much further without improving their coaching staff.

Like Ireland in the cricket, you'd love to see the likes of Georgia given more games against top level teams, even if it was more games against England A or Wales A etc. Would be great to see them get a couple of decent tests in Tbilisi also. They beat Samoa there last year so a lot of teams would be worried going there. For example would Italy be confident of leaving there with a win?

From a Connacht viewpoint, Marmion had little time to impress but didn't really advance his claims in that little cameo. Rodney got almost half an hour, mixed bag but to his credit made some good carries when Georgia were tiring but doubt he'll be a serious contender for a WC spot.

Hard to take much from it really but I said during the week that I didn't see why Darren Cave was playing and unfortunately he hasn't been able to deliver at international level even a step down from top level opposition. I think Olding should move ahead of him in the pecking order at this stage. Was also a tad disappointed with Dominic Ryan and Robbie Diack.

Jones, Madigan and Foley the pick of the bunch today for me. Kilcoyne did reasonably well and may be pushing McGrath a bit. I think Cronin is ahead of both of them though when he comes back.

Good to see a big crowd in for the game.

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5 years 8 months ago #30436

Borders no.2 wrote:
I know I'll probably get accused of bearing a grudge but I honestly don't think they can continue to develop much further without improving their coaching staff.


Thanks for this post

To date, the coaching staff is :
Head coach : Milton Haig (New Zealand)
He previously coached Counties Manukau in ITM Cup. He is very apprecied in Georgia because unlikely to the former coaches, he came to Georgia with his family and he learn the georgian language. Usually Georgia played on their strengths (forwards) but he try to change tactics from a forwards oriented game to a "total" game. IMO that's a mistake, because Georgia not have class backs. Nevertheless, thanks to him, some young georgians like Sharikadze hatched.

Assistant / backs coach : Michael Bradley (Ireland)
Fore sure, you know this guy, he coached Connacht from 2003 to 2010. He worked for the georgian team in 2010-2011 and signed 2 years for Edinburgh between 2011-2013 (he brings in his luggage the backrower Basilaia, who played nr8 today). He was back with the georgian team in June 2013.

Forwards coach : Dider Bès (France)
He was the forward coach of the Top14 side Montpellier between 2003 and 2012. He came in the georgian staff in November 2013

Fitness coach : Darren Morriss (England)
He came in the staff from there EOYT. He was the fitness coach of Georgia from April 2002 to December 2012, including 2003, 2007 and 2011 RWC

And yes, Georgia is surely better at home

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5 years 8 months ago #30437

croket wrote:

Borders no.2 wrote:
I know I'll probably get accused of bearing a grudge but I honestly don't think they can continue to develop much further without improving their coaching staff.


Assistant / backs coach : Michael Bradley (Ireland)
Fore sure, you know this guy, he coached Connacht from 2003 to 2010. He worked for the georgian team in 2010-2011 and signed 2 years for Edinburgh between 2011-2013 (he brings in his luggage the backrower Basilaia, who played nr8 today). He was back with the georgian team in June 2013.


This particular coach is the problem. With limited resources you need good coaches and Bradley certainly isn't going to improve the backline.

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5 years 8 months ago #30472

Payne out with foot injury
My dream of an Olding/Henshaw pairing could become true
But I think Schimdt will be more conservative with D'arcy/Henshaw

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5 years 8 months ago #30547

Ire 26 Aus 23, and Henshaw great again!
this guy took another dimension with Schmidt, will be needed for the Scarlets game(s)

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5 years 8 months ago #30548

Prob be rested for that game. It's rare that a starter is allowed play after internationals. Great game!

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5 years 8 months ago #30549

rossie wrote: Prob be rested for that game. It's rare that a starter is allowed play after internationals. Great game!


No we've to negociate for that game, too much crucial.. No difference if he's rested the week after..

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5 years 8 months ago #30550

Excellent stuff. After a flying start, we played into Australia's hands a bit with some loose helter-skelter play and we were lucky to be level at half time but second half we got back to basics and with ball in hand Australia didn't threaten hugely.

Immense achievement to achieve two wins over two of the three big guns. 1 defeat from 10 in 2014.

The most important thing for me came with Paul O'Connell's interview after the game where he said we are going back to our provinces now unfortunately, he didn't mean it as a sleight to Munster or anything like it but what it said is that everyone is on the one wavelength which is great to see after the last few years of the Leinster/Munster small town stuff.

Provincial rivalry is fantastic but Ireland is the main show in town and Schmidt now has everyone signing from the one hymn sheet.

Looking at the injury list it is quite significant, get those lads back and we'll be in good shape.

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5 years 8 months ago #30551

connachta wrote:

rossie wrote: Prob be rested for that game. It's rare that a starter is allowed play after internationals. Great game!


No we've to negociate for that game, too much crucial.. No difference if he's rested the week after..


If there were some sort of injury crisis Connacht might have a leg to stand on but that's not the case. He will be rested for the good of Ireland after the 80 minutes he put in today and that is the difference. After a full game at the highest level a rest next week will do him more good than playing against the Scarlets and then resting the next week. Also when you bring in players like Mils and Bundee they are there in part to make up for call ups. Obviously the team would be better with Henshaw in it, but the backline that played against Zebre should be able to do the job against the Scarlets.

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5 years 8 months ago #30552

connachta wrote: Ire 26 Aus 23, and Henshaw great again!
this guy took another dimension with Schmidt, will be needed for the Scarlets game(s)


Another very solid performance by Henshaw, loved his chutzpah when he had a bit of a Barney with Ashley-Cooper chasing Murray's kick through.
A-C running his mouth and Robbie looking cool and smiling right back at him.


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5 years 8 months ago #30555

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connachta wrote:

rossie wrote: Prob be rested for that game. It's rare that a starter is allowed play after internationals. Great game!


No we've to negociate for that game, too much crucial.. No difference if he's rested the week after..


If there were some sort of injury crisis Connacht might have a leg to stand on but that's not the case. He will be rested for the good of Ireland after the 80 minutes he put in today and that is the difference. After a full game at the highest level a rest next week will do him more good than playing against the Scarlets and then resting the next week. Also when you bring in players like Mils and Bundee they are there in part to make up for call ups. Obviously the team would be better with Henshaw in it, but the backline that played against Zebre should be able to do the job against the Scarlets.


I've heard he's going to be allowed to start against Scarlets and rested for one or both of Bayonne games.

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5 years 8 months ago #30556

remember he didn't play in the previous game, i'd be suprised if he is rested for the Scarlets game as it's a bit of double pointer for us if we beat them. Scarlets wer'ent badly affected by the international games, i noticed they had a healthy number of their 1st teamers playing against Glasgow. It's a tough one to call but we're in good enough shape with options in most positions.

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5 years 8 months ago #30557

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RogueXV wrote:

connachta wrote:

rossie wrote: Prob be rested for that game. It's rare that a starter is allowed play after internationals. Great game!


No we've to negociate for that game, too much crucial.. No difference if he's rested the week after..


If there were some sort of injury crisis Connacht might have a leg to stand on but that's not the case. He will be rested for the good of Ireland after the 80 minutes he put in today and that is the difference. After a full game at the highest level a rest next week will do him more good than playing against the Scarlets and then resting the next week. Also when you bring in players like Mils and Bundee they are there in part to make up for call ups. Obviously the team would be better with Henshaw in it, but the backline that played against Zebre should be able to do the job against the Scarlets.


I've heard he's going to be allowed to start against Scarlets and rested for one or both of Bayonne games.


Glad to read this, not only because I'm right, but above all because I think it's highly logical. We can't be happy with a backline which only "should" do the job, we have to be full-strenghed, the game will already be difficult enough..... Henshaw+AhYou can make a 50/50 become a 55/45. That's invaluable

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5 years 8 months ago #30572

And for "fun" news; over on Munsterfans, posters are calling for Duncan Casey as starting 2 for 6N and WC and wait for it.....JJ O'H as starting 12.

Honestly, you've almost got to admire them. We just have to stuff them at Christmas!

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