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4 years 5 months ago #66773

I see the Indo have it that Kieran is talking to Saracens about moving at the end of this season. Hopefully there's nothing in this, and with Saracens about to be penalised for persistent breaches of the Premiership salary cap as soon as England exit the RWC, then it isn't great timing on behalf of Kieran's agent!

Hopefully he stays and both he and Caolin together feature regularly in Irish squads under Andy Farrell, because let's face it Lukey McGrath isn't the future and Murray looks like he'll never be the player he was before his neck injury

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4 years 5 months ago #66775

Fingers crossed there's nothing in it. That said, Kieran owes us very little at this stage, he's paid his dues time and time again.

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4 years 5 months ago #66777

It's one of 2 things. It's his agent scaremongering or it's all Joe Schmidt's fault for not bringing him to the world cup


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4 years 5 months ago #66780

Or he's not happy at playing second fiddle to Blade and this could be one of the reasons that he didn't go to Japan, he isn't even first choice in his club team.

Ps. I'm a huge Marmion fan and can't understand at all how he isn't first choice. We're lucky to have two good scrumhalves but, for me, Marmion is hands down the better player.

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4 years 5 months ago #66784

wigglesworth is 36 and the guys behind him are not up to much at all.

Marmion could easily double his wage by going to England, while being a great bargain for Saracens.

Connacht need two high quality scrum halves, and he has been very poorly treated by Ireland under joe. I couldn't blame him for leaving if he thinks that Farrell will continue with more of the same, which seems the most likely scenario.

I didn't realise that Marmion's dad played for Saracens but having that personal connection as well just makes it sound like a no brainer. Best of luck to him I hope he gets a lot of medals with them he will get a chance to really show his ability.

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4 years 5 months ago #66795

Love all he has done for us and the great running game he had last Saturday but my heart is still in my mouth when he box kicks. Hope he doesn't feel under pressure to show he can kick to any other bidders out there as he kicks ok when not forced. I feel the competition between Blade and Marmion has helped both players, but not going to Japan was a bigger blow to Marmion. He's getting back to his best and will be a gem wherever he plays next season but hopefully still here

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4 years 5 months ago #66836

I wonder if this plan has been nixed now that Sarries are 5 million, and 35 points, down?

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4 years 5 months ago #66837

Sol_ie wrote: I wonder if this plan has been nixed now that Sarries are 5 million, and 35 points, down?


One hopes so Sol_ie :)
Gutted if he leaves us, but hopefully it's just posturing for a new contact.
Would not begrudge him after the way he was treated by the Irish rugby team. 4 years working your way into a prominant position (2nd choice 9) and then they turf ya :angry:
Not even for a better player!!!!!

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4 years 5 months ago #66839

Really do hope he stays - I believe he will get more opportunity with Andy Farrell and not be restricted by the formulaic approach Joe Schmidt adopted.

fingers crossed!

Cant imagine:whistle: him playing challenge cup with Saracens as a bit player when we are pushing for H Cup honours....

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4 years 5 months ago #66841

Doubt he would be a bit part player at saracens even if they aren't fined, wiggles is near the end of his contract afaik and the other 9s are not big names. I think he would go in as a starter, especially as moving to England would rule him out of Irish selection meaning he'd be available during internationals.

Would like to think this put a stop on the deal but presumably (not having seen the full ruling) if Saracens were breaching the salary cap they currently still are, in which case they will have to move some players on. That doesn't mean they wouldn't have the money to bring Marmion in and stay under the salary cap, as a like for like he might even cost them less than a comparable player or could replace two players on the books (wigglesworth and their third/fourth choice sh for instance).

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4 years 5 months ago #66846

I highly doubt they could afford Marms, they will put money on retaining their players, and without salary difference Kieran will stay

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4 years 5 months ago #66849

His agent is (I'm hoping) putting the cat amongst the pigeons to try and get the IRFU to improve his pay. The mention of an elite club like Saries pouching a home grown player may make the men in blazers think about keeping Kieran home. However if its true, great for him. His career won't last forever, so earnings for the next few years are vital and Saries have the cash..... well it'll be a bit less now with the latest fine. Match time may be less though. But what ever happens I wish him the best.


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4 years 5 months ago #66909

Linley McKenzie tweeting that marmion has signed 3 year contract extension.

Great news if true

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4 years 5 months ago #66910

Accidentally Onside wrote: Linley McKenzie tweeting that marmion has signed 3 year contract extension.

Great news if true


Absolutely.
Blade has been playing fantastic for the past 15months, but I would have been very disappointed to see Marmion leave.
I love the guy, and can only hope he loves me too :D

I dont think it would be a stretch to call him the greatest scrumhalf that Connacht have ever had, and potentially, one of the greatest players to ever play for Connacht


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4 years 5 months ago #66911

Great news. Presumably Sarries will now move for Luke McGrath :blink:


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4 years 5 months ago #66912

Accidentally Onside wrote: Linley McKenzie tweeting that marmion has signed 3 year contract extension.

Great news if true


Great News!

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