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2 years 9 months ago #58740

This is a ridiculous statement. And bang out of order!!
Reading this it's hard to believe you're a connacht fan.
Out of order
Lazy
Ludicrous

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2 years 9 months ago #58741

Only managed to watch the match now, so very disappointing! It feels like the worst performance I've seen from Connacht since before Pat took over 4 years ago! Worse even then been beaten out the gate by Glasgow in the Sportsground at the beginning of last year.
We never really never looked like we put them under pressure until late in the second half. Zebra didn't challenge at the ruck, packed the wings and had great line speed, and yet we continued all match to try to spin it wide when we probably need to truck it up to suck in the defence first. Lots of individually decent performances, thought Ulten gave it socks, but overall we looked poorly coached and tactical inept.
What way is it that KK wants this team to play? Is it that the players don’t understand what he wants or is he not sure himself? Why has he seemingly be unable to settle on a consistent 23? Why have former stalwarts, such as Tom, been side-lined for no apparent reason?
We've all seen lots of Connacht losses over the years, and I don't mind loosing provided we go down fighting but as far as I can seen we need to sort things out quickly as there is still half of the season left, and on tonight’s performance its looking like we could easily be propping up the table with Ospreys come next May!

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2 years 9 months ago #58742

What way is it that KK wants this team to play? Is it that the players don’t understand what he wants or is he not sure himself? Why has he seemingly be unable to settle on a consistent 23? Why have former stalwarts, such as Tom, been side-lined for no apparent reason?

I read KK wants to change up the team every game as it's so a small squad he does not want to loose any big player to injury.
By rotating the team and we do loose a player the is a stand out in player ready and up to speed.

My gut feeling on this is 7 to 9 changes in every game is too much.
KK maybe right long term, but we need short term results or we will start to loose our players to bigger teams.

ROG constantly says on the hard yards podcast after coming back to Munster from Ireland he needs 3 games to get back on form.
I would agree with ROG on this and not KK.

Also.
Our 10's are very poor, i know we do not have the budget for a big 10. We need a Dan Parkes calibre player to guide the younger players.
Not sure who is available.

Worrying thing is, this is a 3rd year calling for this


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2 years 9 months ago #58743

I would be concerned that there are problems in the dressing room. Perhaps there are more players moving on that we have not heard of yet. But I think Connacht have a genuine chance of getting to the challenge cup final. If they can get their act together for the two games against Brive it could bind them altogether again and get over this hump.

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2 years 9 months ago #58744

Hugely embarassing display and result. We've spurned the opportunity to build on the heroics of '15/16, and yesterday quite frankly was disgraceful.
I agree with all the comments on here about there being no Keane philosophy. Is the guy out of his depth as a Head Coach?
Only Delahunt, Dillane, Mitchell (when he came on) and Farrell could be happy with the shifts they put in yesterday, with the jury being out on Ahki. O'Halloran was hopeless and fellas like Dawai, Cannon, Crosbie, and Carty just aren't up to Pro12 standard. Simple as.....

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2 years 9 months ago #58745

Tall Paul wrote: What way is it that KK wants this team to play? Is it that the players don’t understand what he wants or is he not sure himself? Why has he seemingly be unable to settle on a consistent 23? Why have former stalwarts, such as Tom, been side-lined for no apparent reason?

I read KK wants to change up the team every game as it's so a small squad he does not want to loose any big player to injury.
By rotating the team and we do loose a player the is a stand out in player ready and up to speed.

My gut feeling on this is 7 to 9 changes in every game is too much.
KK maybe right long term, but we need short term results or we will start to loose our players to bigger teams.

ROG constantly says on the hard yards podcast after coming back to Munster from Ireland he needs 3 games to get back on form.
I would agree with ROG on this and not KK.

Also.
Our 10's are very poor, i know we do not have the budget for a big 10. We need a Dan Parkes calibre player to guide the younger players.
Not sure who is available.


Worrying thing is, this is a 3rd year calling for this


I would not say no to Ian Keatley for a season or two. Think Jack should be let go somewhere else with a view to proving himself and coming back a better player, he's stagnated with us.

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2 years 9 months ago #58746

Keatley has just re-signed with Munster. Thought Jack was a noticeable improvement on Crosbie when he came on tbh, Mitchell's service was much snappier than Marmion's too so that may have helped.

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2 years 9 months ago #58747

Bazzo wrote: Keatley has just re-signed with Munster. Thought Jack was a noticeable improvement on Crosbie when he came on tbh, Mitchell's service was much snappier than Marmion's too so that may have helped.


Munster fans were suggesting when he signed that they could still offload him after a season, I'm sure there tune has changed now that he's their in-form ten.

I think working with different coaches and a different system could help Carty improve his game, for me he hasn't improved much the past 2 seasons. If we win the away Brive game I'd like to see Deegan and Mitchell start together at home.

On a separate note, I think SOB, Butler, and McKeon should be our first choice back row when all are fit.

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2 years 9 months ago #58749

Deegan has been given very little game time and no chance to bed in and show if he has potential.
A ten especially needs some settled game time in my opinion.
I would like see Crosbie get another chance, almost everybody played very poorly, so we shouldn't single him out,
Also it seemed like an awkward first half wind for the penalties he missed, the Zebre kicker missed far easier penalties at that end of the field.

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2 years 9 months ago #58750

I think Marmion has got very bulky from the waist down, reminds me of some GAA players who get over conditioned; he has lost his zip for sure. Same happened to BOD mid career before he skimmed down again

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2 years 9 months ago #58752

Deegan promise raises 2 questions : can he kick 70% to the post at least, and is he tall/sharp enough to really start massive games in Pro12/14/Europe

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2 years 9 months ago #58754

Criticism = fine!
Defamation = not fine!

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2 years 9 months ago #58755

Although it was a very poor performance on Saturday people are posting on here as if we have been at the top table for decades.
That great year which culminated in a never to be forgotten day In Edinburgh the like of which we will never see again.
Although it's not looking too promising so far I think it's after next season we can rightly see what kk has in his locker
We need to give him and the players some TIME AND SUPPORT there only getting to know each other and his methods
people posting calling for players heads is rubbish it's not that long ago we were losing 9/10 games on the bounce.

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2 years 9 months ago #58757

Think people need to take a step back and be a bit more reasonable. No one can say that was a good performance, not even close!, but Zebre are not the shambles they used to be, which is good for the league, so losing to them is not quite the disgrace it might once have been.

KK is in his first season here, having missed preseason, so it's going to take time to settle in and get his game plan in place. Some players won't be able to adapt to it and they will need to move on and we'll get in some guys who better suit his game plan, that's the way it goes. He has enough pedigree to suggest that, given time, he will get it right.

There were plenty of calls for Pats head when we shipped 50 to Sarries and that worked out ok. No one is happy with where we currently are or how we are playing, but calling out individual players and coaches is not the answer.

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2 years 9 months ago #58773

Mark Mostyn wrote: We got a run of the green, for our try.. We were awful and Zebre definitely deserved their tries. We do not need luck, we need an attacking game plan that actually creates opportunities, we need pre contact footwork, we need intensity in defense, we need a strategy for restarts, we need to win line outs in the opposition 22, we need to kick our points, we need to animate more when running decoy lines, we need to stop taking the ball static 8 meters behind the gain line, etc.


Agree with all of this and would add we need an outhalf with the ability and confidence to boss the backline. He needs to have the ability to read the opposition game plan, come up with a strategy to counteract act and communicate it to the rest of the backline and make sure it's executed properly. If something isn't working, then change it but if it isn't working because certain individuals aren't doing their job properly, then talk to them and get them up to speed with the rest. I'm not sure that either Carty (Despite glimpses of his undoubted ability) Crosbie or Deegan (Not enough game time to make a judgement) are good enough to fill this role but since these are the only candidates we have, then we need someone to work with them and get the best from them in order to determine the full extent of their ability. Surely Eric Elwood could take some time from his academy duties to work with them on a one to one basis.


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2 years 9 months ago #58792

Ronaldson could play out half, he played there before, he’s a good goal kicker prob the best we have

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